TR2N

Post by **sparks** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:31 am

Just found out last night:)

I take all your points on about this could be better slo mo etc,but HELLO!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AMAZING.

Watching that trailer ,gave me goose bumps.

Reckon its gunna be good.

I'm not a pesismist I'm an optomitrist lol:)

Maybe Disney had a brainfreeze and greenlit it whilst high.

Might never get made but Jeff Bridges being involved and Bruce Boxleitner possibly,is a real positive sign.

Wonder if Lisberger has anything to do with it?

Sorry havn'tbeen keeping up to date with tr2n,since the april fools jokes,thought it would never get made.

Just goes to show never say never.
Heres another you tube link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQTGy15x53g

Post by **Avi** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:23 am

Sparks, get yer arse back on the grid.

YouTube · Post by **TronFAQ** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:05 am

sparks wrote:Wonder if Lisberger has anything to do with it?

He's involved, but not as much as I'd like to see him involved. He's a producer, not the director this time. And he's not writing the script, either. Though, most likely, the writers that have been hired will use a lot of the material from Lisberger's various scripts that he wrote for the sequel.

Post by **TRON.dll** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:08 am

Avi wrote:Sparks, get yer arse back on the grid.

lol

Post by **sparks** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:01 am

tronfaq wrote:
sparks wrote:Wonder if Lisberger has anything to do with it?
He's involved, but not as much as I'd like to see him involved. He's a producer, not the director this time. And he's not writing the script, either. Though, most likely, the writers that have been hired will use a lot of the material from Lisberger's various scripts that he wrote for the sequel.

As sark would say "Nice"

@avi

Do ocassionally get on me bike,but alotta cold circuits out there:)

Post by **TRON.dll** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:05 am

I remember Disney said something along the lines of "The next time you'll see more TR2N is next year (2009), closer to the full film's release."

That could mean that it's coming out in 09, but it could also mean that it's coming out in 10 or 11.

Post by **sparks** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:23 am

Have uploaded the trailer vid on my ,my space "Channel73"

Want a better copy but its good enough for now:)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=39554359

Post by **SweatyPyro** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:09 am

Tyvm sparks, I needed a link.

Post by **Jademz** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:00 am

sparks wrote:Have uploaded the trailer vid on my ,my space "Channel73"

Want a better copy but its good enough for now:)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=39554359

Thanks Sparks, hehe let's see if Tom doesn't kick ya in the nuts for that. haha.

Glad you hooked it up, I saw it disappear about 10 times so far..

Of course I used the link Faq put on Tron-Sector, (Thanks) http://www.keepvid.com add the url to the bar at the top of the page, select hi quality, and save it.

YouTube · Post by **tomzer1** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:08 am

Regarding X's comments about the trailer's aesthetics; although I also have concerns, I loved what I saw. To hold on to the original film's aesthetics entirely would be a mistake...and not because SFX and audience expectations have evolved, but rather you're assuming that the computer world and the programs haven't evolved much in almost 30 years.

Just like the external computer experience for the users has become higher-rez and smoother, so should the developed world of the programs within in terms of the story's environment.

If the programs appear in the image of their users, than their world will also take on more of an image of the users' world as the Electronic World acquires more power, speed, size and varied input from all sorts of new users.

Otherwise if you stick with the 1982 notion of what computing in the 90's would be like, the electronic world would be like Cuba in look and feel: frozen in the 1950's when capitalism left the country.

Basically technology has evolved in the world of the Users, and that very fact should be reflected in the environment that the programs live in. The users no longer gaze into the electronic world form a 2 bit monochrome or 8 bit color window. 24 or more bits of color are the norm now, so imagine how much better looking the Electronic World must be!

Lightcycles no longer turn at 90 degree angles in the Electronic World because users have high-rez displays, bezier-curve calculating display rendering and fonts, and all sorts of ironically "analog" game controllers for input from the Real World.

Anyway, the most important thing about that "test footage" trailer to us and to Disney is that the audiences got what it was right away and they were very orgasmic when they saw that lightcycle rez up!

That's an instant green light for the production and perhaps to be careful about doing it right in terms of who is involved.

If a new director and Pixar take over, I don't have problems since I know how passionate those guys are about Tron. Such creative staff-change sequels can be done right. Don't forget Ridley Scott's "Alien" followed by the sequel "Aliens" made by a fanboy of the movie named James Cameron. (^_-)

Anyway, just my thoughts on the news, the low-rez look at the trailer and genius X's concerns.

///Tom///

PS: At least the cool thing about a Tron sequel is that most of the world will have caught up to the original film in terms of what the original movie was about and the concepts that were "spoofed" that many in the audience didn't originally get back then. (Oh god, I can only imagine what a nastly looking place MySpace is in the Electronic World!) Heehee

PPS: Hmmm...If Tron 2.0 was based aroudn 20 years after the events in Tron, what if Tr2n were more like 30 years out? We'll see what we're in store for as soon as some draft scripts are leaked to BitTorrent. (^_-)

Post by **data_ghost** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:22 am

i think it would be cool if at one point in the game they go back to the old encom system maybe because theres something there that they need to defeat the 'xyz'. if it dragged on too long it would suck but having brand new looking programs go back to the now ancient looking mainframes would be pretty cool, so long as they dont recycle exact areas from the previous film, just recycle the look and feel.

Post by **Daddyo** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:32 am

tomzer1 wrote:Hmmm...If Tron 2.0 was based aroudn 20 years after the events in Tron, what if Tr2n were more like 30 years out?

I think computers will continue to be in a dead zone in terms of performance, for another 20+ years. By around then we will begin having atomic level devices, which will build up in "part count" rapidly just like transistor technology did, over another 20 year period. Computers will then have insane amounts of computing power and memory, getting very close to levels of information & potential as organic life, if not actually exceeding it. Matrix worlds will be easy. Is that good?? It will be for me because I'll be 80 years old and still riding light cycles hehe

That would be an interesting twist ghost.

YouTube · Post by **tomzer1** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:51 pm

data_ghost wrote:i think it would be cool if at one point in the game they go back to the old encom system ... .

Data Ghost,

Yeah, that would be a lot of fun! Of course we got that in Tron 2.0's as well. There's a lot that could be done in that regard, and in terms of locations to visit that would be fun for spoofing. Such as programs visiting a Wii or a PS3...Or getting stuck in an iPhone. (^_-)

Tron had a lot of humor for us geeks of course, so I hope that's retained for the sequel as well. Nothing tickles a geek like networking puns. Heh.

YouTube · Post by **tomzer1** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:06 pm

Daddyo wrote:
tomzer1 wrote:Hmmm...If Tron 2.0 was based aroudn 20 years after the events in Tron, what if Tr2n were more like 30 years out?
I think computers will continue to be in a dead zone in terms of performance, for another 20+ years. ...

Hiya, Daddyo!

Computer progress and the industry is probably the hardest thing I can think of to predict. Even five years out. I've been working in various aspects of the industry since 1982. Tron was my gateway! (^_^)

There's evolution of the machines and interfaces that we could guess at, and then a lot of things coming out of left field that we never would have seen. That's what makes it all so exciting and fun.

The movie Tron itself wasn't very visionary in terms of its view of what computing would be like in the 1990's. It was basically all puns on the networked terminal to mainframe world of the 70's and 80's. Other than taking a stab at what arcade video game graphics would be like, it didn't offer much prediction. For example, most all of the computing in the movie was still command line based. The only advanced idea of a graphical interface was Dillenger's wonderful office desk and virtual (Atari 400) keyboard.

And you gotta love Flynn using Apple's ill-fated Apple /// computer. (^_^) At the moment the movie was being made, Apple was developing the Lisa and Macintosh computers with windowed GUIs, inspired by Xerox's PARC stuff. If only the Tron gang got a look at that stuff before making the movie. Not one mouse in the whole movie, and that was around in the PARC labs since the Sixties!

Will TR2N be more adventurous in how computing is depicted 20 years later?

Post by **Jademz** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:18 pm

Hey guys, you make interesting points, I agree that tech can really translate well into the TR2N script, I think there are several things that seemed to redefine how we use computers, and Tron targeted the exotic futuristic end of computers. I really hope it gets greenlit.

I made a video that I converted from a lower res to HD, tweaked and butchered it to show a few maps in Tron 2.0 and the comic con trailer. I was able to make a clearer version using video fx. So it's a quicky, so if you don't mind watching the game stuff, after the MCP part I showed the revision to that clip.. I took the cork screw out of the sequence, I just thought it was off. hehe.. sorry.

There's a musical I did in there too. hehe... hope you guys enjoy that. I wanted to do some cross promotion, there's alot of interest in Tron 2.0 as a result of the trailer, and it shows the differences between them. If it bores you to death or otherwise, plz let me know.

edit: yeah I'm gonna redo it.. lol

http://www.vimeo.com/1548253